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NEW Username Symbols Suggestion Version 1.0. by DreamON-Mpak NEW Username Symbols Suggestion Version 1.0. by DreamON-Mpak
The New Username Symbols [ announced in "New Username Symbols" by $Heidi ] led to much discussion about whether such a change is needed and whether this new design is suitable for a Art Community like deviantART .. Majority of deviantART members have negative opinions about the new Symbols..
As a major minuses was noted:
- Childish design that does not fit with ART Community.
- Too large Symbols and a variable horizontal position.
- Symbols should be at the left side of Username.
- The majority of deviantART members wish to be returned to the old symbols.

In the given situation is necessary for both sides to be happy.. So I created this design for NEW deviantART Symbols in 2 different Versions.. The basic idea is to keep the old symbols but to satisfy the desire of deviantART Staff Team for new vision on portal.. In the examples that are given I used size that can easily be corrected ..

Now is the time to say what you like and what you do not like in this design.

Both versions of the design are uploaded to my gallery And in section: deviantART Related > deviantART Suggestions > Visual Suggestions..

Your opinion is important to me and I want to hear opinions, constructive criticism and suggestions..

See also and Version 2.0.
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This is a great idea. I've heard some complaints about the absence of the previous symbols. Even newcomers will have no problem identifying the symbols at all. They just need to mouse-over them. The orientation of the symbols has also confused some people, making it a good idea to place them on left of the usernames. Are they better than the current symbols, or lack thereof? I wish I had a symbol sometimes. To be honest, the stars, flames, medal and heart look interesting, but your idea works too. Let's hope your idea gets heard of, and maybe gets approval.
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CanIHazCupcake Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2013
I think these symbols are very good, they can help you identify users.
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Poke-Max Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist

These really aren't necessary. dA changed them to stars and such so they would be easy to understand, and I don't see why nobody seems to like those. They're really a lot better.

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FrogPointPrince Featured By Owner Nov 13, 2013   Artisan Crafter
Agreed. :P
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nati11184 Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
:thumbsup:
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Lewanut Featured By Owner Oct 6, 2013
This strikes me as a happy medium between the old "confusing" symbols and the current condescendingly simple symbols. Definitely an improvement over the official update.
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Schnitzelyne Featured By Owner Oct 5, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I think the ! does not always mean violation of rules, this symbol also appears when a deviant closes their account by themselves
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namenotrequired Featured By Owner Oct 14, 2013  Student Interface Designer
Correct :nod:
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Axel230 Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
These are simply amazing.
They are light, simple, easy to see, and look profesional.
Even if they kept the stars and stuff they wold look better if they fit them into these circles and followed this style.
Someone should come up with a software way to make these the default icons.
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MagicOfSnow Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013
Aren't you missing a key point though? Having symbols which suggest meanings (or make it easier to remember meanings) is I think a big part of the reason for dA's change, and it's entirely sensible. Your symbols don't really suggest meanings except possibly the exclamation mark, so I don't think the dA team would be interested - and I'd agree with them on that. Your symbols could also be criticized as being overly complex, because each one comprises two shapes (an inner character plus a disc or circle) rather than just one. But really that's academic, in view of the first point.

Admittedly they haven't done the best job of things, and personally I consider most of their symbols pointless to even have, but hopefully they'll improve the aesthetics later, e.g. by making them smaller and/or fainter.
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FrogPointPrince Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013   Artisan Crafter
I agree, all but the aesthetics statement which I have to say; I think they look good and are a nice size, not too small to not show detail but not too large to be a bother.
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MagicOfSnow Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013
I could perhaps be ok with the size if they'd at least make the symbols fainter/lighter, to reduce how much the symbols stand out - especially the solid star and the group symbol.
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FrogPointPrince Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013   Artisan Crafter
Yes; perhaps the solid black ones lightened a touch would be a positive change. 
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Shrineheart Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Personally I like the new symbols and find them to be less confusing overall. I actually like the look of them. The ones being suggested here I don't particularly like the look of, to me the feel larger and more cumbersome. 
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FrogPointPrince Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013   Artisan Crafter
I'm so with you!
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xMarinx Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I really like these. I think that they do exactly what you say, and if a change in the symbols are needed I would prefer something like this. It classifies individuals, and still gives something to the non-premium members. (It really feels like I am missing something.) 
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Mikaou Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I liked it better when the symbols weren't so big.
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DreamON-Mpak Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And I like them  no so big but when is  graphic symbol is very hard to be small and  to recognize the symbol.. Symbol need to be recognized and when is used in :devusername: 
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jkrolak Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer

While they are a nice design, I will have to confess to be indifferent on this issue.

 

It is nice to get an indication of the roles some other people play within DA, having an extra symbol after the membership name has never been a selling point on my using the DA site. I would rather see the efforts being focused on improving how the site functions vs minor cosmetic tweaks.

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DreamON-Mpak Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yeah, and I think that way about things .. Honestly I want to be returned the old symbols.. If the deviantART team so much pushing for graphics before our names then this graphics need to contain and old symbols.. 
And I hope to introduce real changes..  not just cosmetic effects.. but now apparently the portal has turned to contemporary social networks.. and  must be .. elegant.. :/
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FrogPointPrince Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013   Artisan Crafter
I disagree; I think dA is striving toward a new and artistic vision and keeping the previous symbols is living in the past. The internet has changed a lot since those were first introduced; and I agree with putting them to rest as a symbol of days glorious past; and the new symbols of its significant future!
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half-rose Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Student Digital Artist
This is what DA should have updated the symbols! That looks, neat and simple to understand! It's more professional and doesn't look childish as the new symbols are...That would be a true update! 
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DreamON-Mpak Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you for support.. Glad you like my suggestion .. :)
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half-rose Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Student Digital Artist
:) I wish DA would change the symbols by those you made.
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AKreiko Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Student General Artist
Waah this needs more support!!! :iconamgplz: I hope the DA team considers this...this is a better idea than those stars and flames. Everyone can get a little of something and it makes reading usernames easier! :icontvtplz: I they NEED to see this!
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DreamON-Mpak Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you  for your support.. And I hope they see this  and maybe  make a revision of new update .. 
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ChrisMasna Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013
Yes! these look betternice. You should be in charge here and not Heidi. They made me want to cancel my premium plan to get rid of my star.

But again, those 13000 daily new users must be in average 13 yo girls. So yes, maybe the new symbols it fit in the community...
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FrogPointPrince Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013   Artisan Crafter
Lmfao! Heidi has been staff here since probably before you joined! She's been a wonderful member of their team and has led the company thus far very well and will continue to do stuff. The new symbols are sweeeet. People just need to stop whining about "THE CHANGE" lmfao.
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DreamON-Mpak Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks for your support ..  I am glad that you like my  Suggestion.. :aww: .. btw ''betternice'' is  very interesting word..
In the case I will speak in defense of Heidi.. She is very good and responsible Administrator.. We must not forget that the team of this site is very large and decisions are taken together.. Heidi is the messenger who told us the news and receive all the negatives when the decision was wrong.. Her work is not easy.. I hope administrators to listen to members and make a revision of the update.. 




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ChrisMasna Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013
betternice? 

*nice, better
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Alistu Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Of the two versions you have created, this is my favourite. I prefer the darkened background of the symbols as it makes them stand off the page making them easier to identify.
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DreamON-Mpak Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you for support.. And I prefer dark verion  too .. Verison 2 look more like new Symbols ( Beta Tester Star and  Beta Tester/Hell Freez  flame ) - relies on the empty space.. :)
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tenshi-no-hi Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I like them.
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DreamON-Mpak Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you .. :aww:
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tenshi-no-hi Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You are so very welcome :iconspazhugplz:
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290Pika Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2013  Student Filmographer
:highfive: So much better.
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DreamON-Mpak Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thanks.. :)
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NasikaSakura Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2013  Student Traditional Artist

PLEASE AND THANK YOU!

I was hoping for something like this too.

I suggested it on the announcement yesterday as well.

There really needs to be something done about these new symbols though with the great amount of dismay displayed by the community. :( I certainly hope this idea gets further pushed.

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DreamON-Mpak Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you .. I appreciate your support .. :aww:
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NasikaSakura Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Student Traditional Artist

Oh, I hadn't seen the second half of the deviation until later. ^^; So sorry...

I really do like the symbols for the different deviant types (!, &, etc.), which is what I had suggested -- to add more similar symbols to suit the new need. However, I still feel the circular forms are too distracting when used in texts and the like. This though is far less distracting than the giant STARs. :)

This is a very good middle ground, yet I'd still prefer just the symbols without the circle.

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lameboat Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That these ones seem to be just as large as the horrific currently implemented new symbols, is my only criticism from what's shown.
The size actually works despite its hugeness in the top/message centre bar -- but that's because the symbol and username are the same colour in that instance, which won't be true in most places on the site. In the userpage header, it again seems to be a bit oversized (vertical placement seems to be a little off, as well? Not positive, may just be due to the symbol size), something perhaps three quarters or half that size would probably be more suitable. Regular, Premium, and Beta member text symbols may need to be made bolder so that they'll still be easily visible with a size reduction in the overall symbol.
It'd be really interesting to see how these symbols would look in place in other examples.

That said, vast improvement. It'd be wonderful if they switched to one of these sets. They maintain the clean look that was desired with the new ones, while retaining the old symbols (because, frankly, there's very little about the new symbols that make their meaning "more clear"; the only thing that does that is the mouse-over hovertext that was added -- and you're right, they look juvenile).

As far as any conflicts they may find --- if they really think it's necessary to set apart users that are upgraded for 7 years versus users who are upgraded for some other length of time, there's no reason they can't choose another symbol to represent them, as well. But removal of symbols for non-premium members just makes things look unbalanced and messy no matter where they're placed (and also makes the thin veil of the not-so-subtle marketing attempt all that more transparent, tbh).
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DreamON-Mpak Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
First thank you for your support..  I appreciate it.. 
Thank you and for your suggestions and opinion.. Yes  the size is large  in top/message centre bar.. but if in that particular zone I decrease the Symbols size they  looks horrible.. the reason is the same color as username.. Therefore, the size is such as to recognize the symbol.. for a userpage header symbol and his vertical placement - can easily be changed.. It is the job for DeviantART coding Team .. I do not know the exact parameters of the arrangement of symbols currently.. The location of an object is not  due to the size of image , he is due to the CSS styles.. About Regular, Premium, and Beta member text symbols - You  a right.. They may need to be  bolder .. some of others ( staff, senior and volunteer) are bolder..  Thank you for a great constructive comment.. 
And I hope soon to change these childish characters.. Hearts ! Stars !  I am not  13 yo .. lol !!
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Inside-Joke Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2013   Digital Artist
I much prefer this idea to the super bold face symbols we have now.
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DreamON-Mpak Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you for support.. :)
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Inside-Joke Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013   Digital Artist
You're welcome. I've only talked to a few other people, but the majority agree that they'd prefer the old symbols to these new ones as well.
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miontre Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
$Heidi, have you seen this suggestion? I think it's a good compromise :aww:
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miontre Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I must say, this is a very good compromise :D
I hope the staff see this!
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DreamON-Mpak Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you  miontre .. I really   appreciate your  opinion  and support..  btw your style script is great Idea.. :)
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Gokai-Chibi Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2013   Digital Artist
I personally think the old symbols were boring and bland. It is easier to distinguish between the new symbols and that's why they were implemented to begin with. 

-I don't really see how the designs are childish it is common to place stars/hearts/badges beside usernames who have donated or supported websites. I honestly think they kept them as streamline and professional looking as possible. (be happy you don't have a bright yellow star)  I also think a star fits more then the text symbol with the art community.

-They could be smaller I'll agree to this

-I could understand the text symbols being on the left but something like what they have now looks better after the name. I'd rather be Gokai-chibi the beta user, not the beta user Gokai-chibi.

-This is highly debatable. I've meant just as many do not care or like the new symbols oppose to who don't. Just because one side seems more vocal doesn't mean they outnumber the other side.  The side against something will ALWAYS be more vocal.

I dunno in my opinion if they went back to the old symbols, Id want them to make exactly like they were before. The ones you have made are even more displeasing  to the eye and distracting then the stars.
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DreamON-Mpak Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I respect your opinion and thank you for it.
- new Symbols for me personally are really childish .. or even worse .. like a status as a dating site .. There is no way a serious artist to feel really comfortable when he send   page on employer and behind his name stands star .. even worse - heart .. It remains to be added and a second symbol of marital status .. Hearted - in an intimate relationship .. empty heart - alone .. Broken Heart - unrequited love .. 

 - It is not correct title is after the name .. Queen Catherine, Sir Elton John, Prince Charles .. In many nations the placement of the title after the name speaks of low intelligence.. 

- In polls people do not discuss so much .. most just vote .. and there's negative opinion also prevails..

And I prefer old symbols and want them back .. My suggestion is just  a idea if they want to make something between old and new  Symbols.. 
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Gokai-Chibi Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013   Digital Artist
but da isn't a site for serious artist, it is a site for artist of every level and skill. While people do use it on a  professional level that is not the original intention of the site.

I don't know if DA's done an official poll, but most the user polls I've seen have been pretty even matched.
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